From #AusterityJustice to Access to #ProsperityJustice? #HLEThinkTank @MoJGovUK @JoshuaRozenbergQC

The future of Legal Aid and Litigants in Person: can we Safeguard Access to Justice? was an excellent event chaired by Joshua Rozenberg and organised by the Halsbury Law Exchange last night 22.09.2016.

One of the four panellists was Steve Hynes, the author of “Austerity Justice”.

In the morning I was cheered up with “Go on, Love”, as my walking sticks took me to the tube.

“Carry on, Soldier”, I thought when I spoke with a retired Crown Prosecutor who used to work with Austin Mitchell MP on the Campaign for a National Legal Service (CNLS). On behalf of the Forum for Stable Currencies, Austin had submitted Early Day Motions to ensure Public Credit for Public Purposes from 2001 to 2011.

On the legal issue of the supposed ‘neutrality’ and ‘independence’ of the Judiciary:

  • who decides on its budget?
  • who finances court buildings, judges, court staff, prisons?
  • the money does not seem to come out of Governments budgets – but last night everybody seemed to assume that Government is responsible for the quality of the ‘justice system’.

On the financial power to control, maybe we need to go back to the Enforcement of the Bank of England Act 1694:

  • it made trading ‘financial products’ punishable – at three times the value of the trade!

Maybe we need to question what the Bank of England does with its powers

On the expectations projected onto the Online Court, maybe the Law Specialist Group of the British Computer Society can contribute?

My computer logic tells me that the Bank of England owes the Government a lot of money!

  • Who will lead the way from Austerity Justice to Prosperity Justice or can we envisage prosperity and justice?

What do I find about CNLS – the Campaign for a National Legal Service?

The crisis of funding for public legal services is not limited to the UK.

The Campaign for a National Legal Service (CNLS) recognises the gravy train has hit the buffers.

The group wants a national network of law centres doing all publically-funded civil work – law centres represent better value than high street practice.

The sickness at the heart of UK justice is ultimately cultural. Anyone who fails to understand must read David Rose’s penetrating insight into the collapse of criminal justice, In the Name of the Law.

“Class,” he says, “accounts for some of the system’s most objectionable features.”

Go on, Love. Carry on, Soldier.

  • Victims turned Survivors and Starfighters,
  • Campaigners turned Online Activists and Petitioners,
  • McKenzie Friends turned Whistleblowers and Public Interest Advocates CONNECT and UNITE – towards SMART Justice – thanks to IT!!!
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About Sabine Kurjo McNeill

I'm a mathematician and system analyst formerly at CERN in Geneva and became an event organiser, software designer, independent web publisher and online promoter of Open Justice. My most significant scientific contribution is www.smartknowledge.space
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17 Responses to From #AusterityJustice to Access to #ProsperityJustice? #HLEThinkTank @MoJGovUK @JoshuaRozenbergQC

  1. Timothy Veater says:

    Could I draw your readers’ attention to the case of JAKE CLARKE currently ‘sectioned’ under the Mental Health Acts 1983 and 2007 in a Luton Mental Hospital, for ‘delusional thinking’. This appears to be based mainly upon the fact that he believed the testimony of the ‘Hampstead Children’ (now lost to public view in the British ‘care’ system) and was active in various ways to make their case known. Jake made the ‘mistake’ of complaining about the internet harassment, which was vindictive, threatening and sustained, from a certain set-up called ‘Hoaxstead’. By any objective standards, the stuff put out by them, which is on record, and directed at anyone active to get justice for the two children, was defamatory and probably illegal, yet no formal action has been taken against it or its authors. This in itself is highly suspicious and tends to suggest police or government protection if not collusion. Jake thought he had obtained a listening and empathetic ear. Instead it morphed into the nightmare he now finds himself in. Initially ‘sectioned’ for 36 hours, this was immediately extended to 28 days. An internal appeal against this has failed. Now he has been threatened with the order being extended to six months unless he agrees to sustained supervision and ‘treatment’ with anti-psychotic drugs which have already been administered. As far as I am aware Jake has shown no signs of schizophrenia or delusional thinking, although there is a suggestion he suffers from mild Aspergers syndrome, although this would never suffice for this coercive procedure unless linked to more serious behaviours. As far as I am aware Jake has never been a risk to himself or others. In fact from the small amout of evidence I have observed, he comes across as an exemplary thoughtful, stable and loving young man of twenty eight. If as we suspect, the ‘sectioning’ is less about helping Jake with a problem, and more about preventing him from continuing his campaign to make the Hampstead case known, it is a disgraceful misuse of the powers conferred by the legislation and harks back to the worst excesses of the Soviet Union. We have to ask ourselves, is this the state of Britain today? If so, it is warning not only to Jake but to any and everyone with a social conscience and an active desire to protect the vulnerable. Were this an isolated case, we might consider it an aberration. Sadly, what can only be described as an outrageous persecution of others involved in the Hampstead case, of which readers of this site will be aware, whilst making no effort to investigate or prosecute the accused, or their subsequent vicious internet campaign, proves this cannot be accidental, but government inspired and approved action, presumably to the highest levels in both Home and Justice Departments – a truly shocking state of affairs.

    • Jake Maverick says:

      They did EXACTLY the same to me over a decade ago now…although it was immediately indefinately’ for 6 months (then extend infinitum), there was no tribunal/ hearing or anything like that….in the end i think they did let me out bit before the 6 months was up. But the harassment and violence have been going on ever since. Same age Jake is now at the time.

      It was clearly for political reasons also. I’m aware personally of many other cases. According to the official govt stats the crazy population inEngland and Whales has been growing by 40% every single year for over a decade, last i checked. It certainly not because the CI is still going around putting LSD in people’s bread….

      I wish I could help you/ your friend, but I’m in no position to help myself. They’ve completely destroyed my life and I have no means to rebuild it. Homeless/ paperless (no ID) or anything ever since.

      They also killed a guy by tying him to a radiator amongst other things as they refused to investigate the crimes that he reported to them….you’ll get a lot more truth about what is going on in the cuntry formerly known as England from Russia Today than anywhere else I think.

    • JM says:

      They did EXACTLY the same to me over a decade ago now…although it was immediately indefinately’ for 6 months (then extend infinitum), there was no tribunal/ hearing or anything like that….in the end i think they did let me out bit before the 6 months was up. But the harassment and violence have been going on ever since. Same age Jake is now at the time.

      It was clearly for political reasons also. I’m aware personally of many other cases. According to the official govt stats the crazy population inEngland and Whales has been growing by 40% every single year for over a decade, last i checked. It certainly not because the CI is still going around putting LSD in people’s bread….

      I wish I could help you/ your friend, but I’m in no position to help myself. They’ve completely destroyed my life and I have no means to rebuild it. Homeless/ paperless (no ID) or anything ever since.

      They also killed a guy by tying him to a radiator amongst other things as they refused to investigate the crimes that he reported to them….you’ll get a lot more truth about what is going on in the cuntry formerly known as England from Russia Today than anywhere else I think.

    • Timothy Veater says:

      One ‘small’ correction: the initial ‘sectioning’ was for 72 hours not 36 as stated above. Apologies for that.

  2. JM says:

    They did EXACTLY the same to me over a decade ago now…although it was immediately indefinately’ for 6 months (then extend infinitum), there was no tribunal/ hearing or anything like that….in the end i think they did let me out bit before the 6 months was up. But the harassment and violence have been going on ever since. Same age Jake is now at the time.

    It was clearly for political reasons also. I’m aware personally of many other cases. According to the official govt stats the crazy population inEngland and Whales has been growing by 40% every single year for over a decade, last i checked. It certainly not because the CI is still going around putting LSD in people’s bread….

    I wish I could help you/ your friend, but I’m in no position to help myself. They’ve completely destroyed my life and I have no means to rebuild it. Homeless/ paperless (no ID) or anything ever since.

    They also killed a guy by tying him to a radiator amongst other things as they refused to investigate the crimes that he reported to them….you’ll get a lot more truth about what is going on in the cuntry formerly known as England from Russia Today than anywhere else I think.

    • Timothy Veater says:

      Not sure why your contribution has been replicated three times, but perhaps it is worth repeating, as it appears to demonstrate a world largely hidden from public view, and exposes a very dark and questionable underbelly to the administration of justice in this country. I sincerely hope that despite your painful experience, you have been able to come to terms with it and find individuals and organisations that can provide understanding and help. Regards, Tim.

      • I wanted JM to see that his comments were NOT ‘blocked’…

      • JM says:

        yes it is weird sometimes, i tried posting several times as it was not showing….usually they go through immediately, sometimes takes long time, sometimes disappear completely….if ipost under Jake Maverick they usually just disappear permanently….which was why i started using the initials, but other day it ‘auto detected’ me as with full name again, which was why i thought problem had re-occured…..

      • Timothy Veater says:

        JM – Strangely, I too have encountered problems when I try to post on this site. (Of course I don’t believe Sabine is responsible in any way) On the last occasion it took an inordinately long time before it went through. I can’t help thinking it may be because it has to go via Cheltenham or even Fort Meade, but of course that would be quite stupid, delusional even.

      • JM says:

        You never come to terms with that! Nor are their any individuals who can or will help. Lot more to it than just that….things like mkultra and contelpro don’t just exist in America you know and they never, never stopped…..technology has become more capable and the abuse has substantially increased. I’ve been homeless for over a decade…numerous violent muggings, beatings, you’re constantly living in fear of when the next attack will come or if anybody you care about will get caught in the crossfire. And I have no papers, so can’t even get a bank account…so I can’t work, rebuild my life or do anything. They won’t even give me benefits…..so only survive on the whim and so called sadistic family members, some of whom happen to be pedophiles so it is not nice being here at all and with no way out…..they’ll die soon and i guess back to the insitution for me.

        I’ve tried everything you can possibly think of, repeatedly, for over a decade. There is no way out 😦

        I’m just glad your friend has somebody who believes and supports him. Best to you.

      • Timothy Veater says:

        As to your past experiences and current situation, JM, both practical and emotional, I hope that wherever you are, you can seek out and find some appropriate help and assistance. I am sure you don’t need me to suggest where this might be found. In any event, I hope things improve for you. Regards, Tim.

      • JM says:

        Precisely that Tim! Sabs is like a modern day saint i think, i know she’s not one of them….but then again, they do like to pose as the good guys….:-(

        and no help to be found….more you look the more victims you find pleading for help to, but that said I’ve never met anybody yet who has had their papers taken……’cept those on the streets….and I think they’re pretty much stuck there in same way I am, until the charities find them….but I do not know how they cans olve their papers problems though either….:-(

  3. Reblogged this on Musings of a Penpusher and commented:
    It is difficult to believe these are the true stories of real people living in Britain – but they are true and we have to do what we can to ensure as many people as possible have access to reading about them in the hope that the victims will receive justice – one day.

  4. Timothy Veater says:

    UPDATE: I spoke to JC for the first time today. It is possible that the doctors in this case were acting in good faith and in what they thought was in his best interests, unaffected by extraneous issues. However a definite factor was his belief in the Hampstead children’s accounts, which they regard as ‘fantasy’, and which was therefore proof of his delusional thinking. Of course doctors are fully committed to their diagnoses and chemical treatments, so perhaps we should not necessarily impute sinister motives to them prescribing anti-psychotics at the first opportunity – just a lack of imagination! Rather ironic really, when in a sense being ‘delusional,’ is having too much of it.

    • JM says:

      anybody who believe they have the right to violently abduct people people and then start torturing/ injecting with those very nasty things are clearly delusional….trying to reason with my perps just made them more violent and sadistic, but did u try mentioning Hillsborough to them? and how long did that take before some of the truth started to come out…..?

  5. JM says:

    “JM – Strangely, I too have encountered problems when I try to post on this site. (Of course I don’t believe Sabine is responsible in any way) On the last occasion it took an inordinately long time before it went through. I can’t help thinking it may be because it has to go via Cheltenham or even Fort Meade, but of course that would be quite stupid, delusional even.”

    that’s EXACTLY one ofthe delusions i was supposedly suffering from….i wonder if they’re still using that crap since Snowden? as well as the cameras i dug out of my bedroom and bthroom ceilings…and just to undermine how STUPID these people really are, they also kept indirecting referring to things i had written in personal emails to people….so they obviously had access, it’s called RIPA 2001- gave them the legal power to do that as well as install cameras and other devices…..:-( you can read abt it online.
    and of course with wifi/ smart metres (so called) they got everything you do in your own home in full 3d holo porn, recorded indefinately 😦

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